White nationalism is white SUPREMACY; Jew nationalism is ok, according to k*ke, Lipstadt

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Deborah Lipstadt’s double standard on white nationalism and Jewish nationalism​

Philip Weiss on November 28, 2016 33 Comments

Link: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/11/lipstads-standard-nationalism/

On National Public Radio yesterday the Holocaust scholar Deborah E. Lipstadt said that “the so-called alt-right” is a euphemism for white nationalism, which is itself a euphemism for white supremacy; and the media should cut through the pretense and say “white supremacism.”

LIPSTADT: I would say white supremacism. I think white nationalism is just like Holocaust deniers calling themselves, you know, revisionists. To properly understand the danger, we should call them by what they really are, white supremacists..

I think it’s incumbent upon the media to understand who these people are and the kind of arguments they’re making and not to treat them as a benign point of view.

Meantime, in the Forward, Lipstadt has an article that while critical of rightwing Jewish groups for normalizing Trump’s racism, reserves its main blast for the left. “Didn’t Slam Anti-Semitism On the Left? Don’t Expect Credibility When You Slam It On the Right.” In this article, Lipstadt equates anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.

For the past few decades, we have witnessed the rise of anti-Semitism from the left. From Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party in the United Kingdom to college campuses across America, the phenomenon is real, and it is dangerous. Yet, all too often, some Jews — both individuals and organizations — who inhabit the liberal or left end of the spectrum have tried to explain it away with the classic “yes/but” rationalization: “Yes, it’s wrong, but if only Israel would… then the anti-Semitism would disappear.” Maybe their fear of losing their left-wing bona fides blinded them to the fact that the only proper response to prejudice of any kind — anti-Semitism included — is unambiguous condemnation.

Lipstadt is advocating a double standard. If she is going to criticize white nationalism as a white supremacist ideology, then what about Jewish nationalism? Palestinians routinely describe the Zionist regime in Israel Palestine as Jewish supremacy; and there is plenty of evidence to support the victims’ view of the matter. As the illustration above makes plain, any Jew can move to Israel tomorrow; but a Palestinian who was born there and made a refugee by the Jewish state is not allowed to return to his or her own village. There are over 1.5 million Palestinians and registered descendants living in refugee camps right now. Many laws in Israel discriminate against Palestinians in favor of Jews, including many involving land ownership and zoning that are reminiscent of the Jim Crow South. And if you are a Palestinian living in the occupied West Bank, you can’t vote for the government that rules your life; but a Jewish settler living alongside you in an illegal colony can vote. That would seem to be the definition of supremacy.

So: Lipstadt is slamming white nationalism while extolling Jewish nationalism. The left is consistent in condemning both.

This debate is no longer confined to ideologues of Zionism and anti-Zionism. It has become an urgent American discussion because the Trump victory has pushed liberals and leftwingers into the same political space, of Trump resistance. Some of these anti-Trump activists are Zionists, some are anti-Zionists; and the contradiction is no longer sustainable: the lib-left must support equal rights for all people if it is to have ideological integrity and force in opposing Trump. I would argue that Hillary Clinton’s Zionism contributed to her defeat; and that once Jewish nationalism is exposed for its actual accomplishments in Israel and Palestine, Zionists are sure to lose this debate among freedom-loving Americans.

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40 percent of Americans think ‘Israel treats Palestinians like Nazis treated Jews’​

BY PHILIP WEISS JANUARY 16, 2023 14

Link: https://mondoweiss.net/2023/01/40-p...-treated-jews/?ml_recipient=77553252107814896

JONATHAN GREENBLATT ON MSNBC ON JAN. 12, 2023. SCREENSHOT.
If you don’t want to socialize with people who support Israel, or you think Israel treats Palestinians the way Nazis treated Jews, you’re antisemitic, according to a new survey of antisemitism from the Anti-Defamation League.
The survey goes further than ever in the effort by the Israel lobby to brand “highly negative” views of Israel as bigotry. Released last week, and promptly seconded by the American Jewish Committee, the ADL survey reports that 40 percent of Americans believe that Israel treats Palestinians as Nazis treated Jews — a remarkable indication of Israel’s sinking reputation in the U.S.
Americans’ belief in antisemitic ideas of Jewish conspiratorial influence have doubled just in the last three years, the survey alleges, with a “surge” in antisemitic acts. But surprise– the ADL links that increase to Israel.
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“We also found a significant overlap between anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and highly negative sentiments toward Israel,” the ADL’s Jonathan Greenblatt explained in his usual puffball interview on MSNBC, by Andrea Mitchell last week:

So, you hate the Jewish state, chances are you also deeply dislike the Jewish people…. It takes my breath away to think that literally 70 percent of Americans are telling us they are unwilling to spend time or be in the same space with a person who supports the Jewish state. I mean that is without precedent…. Honestly, it’s a scary snapshot.

Greenblatt appears to be exaggerating his own statistic on Americans’ unwillingness to hang out with Zionists– the survey says 18 percent. But the anti-Israel index includes several attitudes such as that one that are perfectly legitimate: Israel and its supporters are a bad influence on our democracy (24 percent agreement), Israel treats Palestinians like Nazis treated Jews (40 percent), Israel is not a strong U.S. ally (22 percent).

“It’s wildly irresponsible for the ADL to run together polling about antisemitism with polling about Israel,” Rafi Magarik says on twitter. “It is a brazen attempt to remove Israel’s behavior from the sphere of political debate, and to paint critics of Israel as Jew haters.”
“Since the creation of Zionism, millions of Jews were opposed to the creation of an explicitly Jewish state in historic Palestine,” Max Berger writes. “Were all of those Jews anti-semites? Are anti-zionist Jews today?”
Greenblatt’s aggressive rhetoric is not new. He has said that anti-Zionists are as dangerous to Jews as rightwing antisemitic nationalists. He has called for a war on anti-Zionism in the Palestinian solidarity movement and inside the Jewish community.
In his interview with MSNBC, Greenblatt blamed social media and youth for the antisemitism rates and said we should design “programs” and “interventions” to counter the problem. Of course neither he nor Andrea Mitchell acknowledged that Israel’s conduct is any part of the problem, that Israel ought to stop practicing apartheid or persecuting Palestinians. That attitude is surely antisemitic.
Greenblatt has also gone on the warpath against the Nation story that documents that Ken Roth formerly of Human Rights Watch lost out on a fellowship at Harvard’s Kennedy School because of the influence of pro-Israel donors.

A recent @thenation piece constructs a multilayered conspiracy theory grounded in a series of suppositions about powerful pro-Israel Jewish philanthropists working themselves into positions of power at the @Kennedy_School. It’s classic #antisemitism.

The Israel lobby has been saying as much for two decades: If you talk about the Israel lobby you’re an antisemite. It’s a strategy to grant political immunity to apartheid, a strategy that will only generate more hatred toward the Jewish establishment — when young Jews are walking away from that community in “swaths” because of Israel.
Here’s the survey. Israel is intermixed from the start. The ADL’s list of antisemitic tropes includes beliefs that Jews are more loyal to Israel than the U.S., that Jews have too much influence in the business world and on Wall Street “and too much power in the United States today.” And Jews go out of their way to hire other Jews (53 percent of respondents agree) and Jews are not “warm and friendly” (17 percent).

The ADL promptly conflates the alleged rise in these attitudes with criticisms of Israel.

ADL has seen the ways in which criticisms of Israel can exceed policy critiques and instead morph into traditional anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and antisemitic tropes as well as be weaponized to malign or increase hostility toward Jews generally.